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erod 02-11-2008 03:27 PM

car feel off balance
 
hi there, i have a toyota camry 2002 with 139k miles. the other day i was driving and the road was bumpy. after a few mins of driving in bumpy road, i felt like if i have a flat tire. i stopped and check the tires and it was ok. still i feel like a flat tire. so i went to gas station and put some air in all tire and drive away. i still feel the same coming from the back tire on the driver side. it just feel like the back tire is flat but it isnt.
the car feel unbalance.
any ideas what could be the problem?

toyomoho 02-11-2008 07:34 PM

RE: car feel off balance
 
Jack up the rear drivers side tire. Check for bending when rotated, watch the tire as it rotate to make sure it is not wobbling, grab the tire at 3 and 9 oclock and shake it to check for play. Make sure the tire alignment is still good and that the tire has not shifted in or out. Remove the tire and check the suspension. If you need to, compare your findings with the wheel on the other side.

Could be a suspension part, rubber bushing, , dragging brake, wheel bearing or a tire going bad.


erod 02-12-2008 12:29 PM

RE: car feel off balance
 
thanks for your suggesstions. how about the ball joint? can this be the problem?

toyomoho 02-12-2008 01:02 PM

RE: car feel off balance
 
Only the front lower suspension arm has a ball joint. The rear uses a strut rod and suspension arms having bushing type joints.

The issue may be a rear wheel is dragging a little because a suspension part has shifted. The rear bushings can wear out and end up with excessive play, you should be able to see and feel this.

Also view the car at a distance and see if the front and rear tires are lining up.

You can test the ball joint by using a pry bar to check for play.

erod 02-12-2008 01:24 PM

RE: car feel off balance
 
thank you this is very helpful. i will follow your step.

1. i will jacked up the car and rotate tire to make sure if doesn't wobble.
2. i will check for play by grabbing at 3 and 9 oclock and shake up side way, up and down and pull toward me
3. if it doesnt wobble or if there is no play, i will replace tire with the full size spare that i have
4. if the problem persist, then it could be one of the problem you listed


when you say to check for play and i shake the tire up, down, sideway, there shouldnt be any play at all? correct?
i am just assuming that when you shake the tire, it will move a little bit at least which could be normal. so dont know if that is consider play if move a little bit. what do you think?

now, if a suspension part has shifted, will a wheel alignment fix this problem or do i have to replace some parts?

toyomoho 02-13-2008 05:59 PM

RE: car feel off balance
 
Good question. The bearings can have some very slight play such as 0.002-0.003 inch which is very small. The suspension may have some wear and thus play but it should be nil.

The issue here is flat tire feel. For a symptom this major would suppose the suspension has a problem that is readily apparent by look or feel.

The rear knuckle is supported by a strut rod and two arms all fitted with bushings. Owners have had issues with the strut rod bushing wearing out resulting in a the tire actually shifting in and out of position. This strut rod connects to the side knuckle and the frame. The two arms come out from the back of the knuckle and bolt to the center of the cars frame.

The knuckle is also supported at the top by the shock and spring which bolts to the cars chassis. Must add to be sure to also check the shock and spring setup. It is possible the spring may have broken (this does happen) or there is some damage to the shock or where the shock bolts to the frame.

Where the shock bolts to the frame there is another bushing, as such there may be some play in this area. It is common for this bushing to wear out but typically its starts to make noise before getting too bad.

The lower part of shock bolts to the knuckle and should have a solid connection. Check the shock rod, the rod shinny rod that comes out of the shock absorber body. Make sure it is not damaged as this is what connects the shock (and knuckle) to the upper frame.

Also check the bearing, if bad enough this can cause problems. With tire off grab the bearing hub which has the studs bolts on it. See how much play the hub as you rock it in and out (same as you did with the tire). Normally this is done with a dial indicator as the play is very small but you may be able to determine if the bearing play is too great just by feel.

One other thing is to check for bent or broken parts. You stated you were going over bumps when this happened. Again if you need to know what the suspension should look and feel like go to the opposite side and check it out (assuming it is OK).

The suspension does not normally shift on its own. The cause would be a worn, damaged or broken part. Any parts would need to be fixed before an alignment was done. Having an alignment down would depend on what part was replaced and how. The rods and struts are adjustable, if this adjustment gets off by changing out the part, so will the alignment.

Replacing something like a wheel bearing would not require realignment or (if possible) only a bushing was replaced on a strut or rod and not the complete rod, or something like a sway bar bushing. Unfortunately some parts are sold only as a complete unit and one can not get just the bushing.



omar312331 08-05-2014 02:35 PM

car feels like it has flats but
 
Yesterday i was driving to the store and out of nowhere my car started feeling like it was driving on flats. Mind you i drove the car to work and it was parked for 10hrs. then drove it home and it was parked for another 4-5 hrs before i went to the store. What can this be. any help please.

Patonium 08-06-2014 12:43 AM

Year, trim, and engine or your Camry?
Any check engine light? Engine runs fine?
I assume the tires are all properly inflated.
Could be dragging brakes like Joey has suggested to the OP. Go over his other suggestions as well.

omar312331 08-06-2014 08:05 AM

i have a 2007 camry LE 2.4 dohc engine. Last night i lifted the car and checked if the tires wobbled as i spun them freely. NO WOBBLE. i also did sharp donuts in the street with the wheel turned all the way did about three and no noise no clicking or anything. I do have the two front rotors that are old was unable to replace a few months back could this be the problem.

Patonium 08-07-2014 12:41 AM

Do you mean your rotors need to be replaced but you haven't done it yet? Are they to thin or warped? I don't think bad rotors would make your car feel sluggish.
No CEL, right?


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