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linsjean 09-23-2012 05:40 PM

Electronic Mirror/Electric Window does not work
 
I have a 1994 Camry LE, 6 cyl. Someone hit my car on the passenger side, bent the front fender and riipped most of the mirror off. I'm not so worried about the mirror yet because I can probably pick one of at a wrecking yard and I think in Oregon as long as I have my rear view mirror and my driver's side side mirror, I'm legal.l

How do I get the passenger side door panel off without destroying it? the bottom is now loose, but there must be a hidden clip somwhere that is still holding it on. I don't want to destroy the door panel. Two people have taken off parts and pulled on the panel but it won't come off and now I'm seeing tears in the door panel.

For a temporary fix, besides seran wrap, what else can I use to keep the rain out?

Any ideas how to get the panel off? Haynes manual is of no help.
Thanks!

linsjean 09-23-2012 06:52 PM

Update: My housemate just now got the panel off. And he got the window in the UP position. So that's where it still stay until we can figure out how to get it to operate up and down properly. It appears the window is off the track and maybe bent. I guess a body shop?

linsjean 09-26-2012 06:11 PM

Another update: Went to a glass auto shop and the motor checked out ok. What I was told that there are two little clips (brackets) on the bottom of the glass that are loose and not attached and will need to be re-glued and the tech sugges Urethane glue. Does anyone know the exact brand or name or this stuff? Or shall we just go into an auto store and say what we are trying to do and go by their suggestions? I would appreciate a reply. I usually get good responses here. Even if you say you don't know would be great, but I don't know if you are low on volunteers here or other members that do not want to reply. I don't want to pay the glass shop $75 just to re-glue those brackets. Thanks!

toyomoho 09-27-2012 02:20 PM

There are all types of glues, urethane is one type. It will be sold under many brand names, in one or two part packages and having differant consistances such as thick or thin.

A two part package mixes two chemical together when applied, the result is a faster cure time.

A one part urethane adhesive such as construction may take days to cure.

Urethane adhesives remain flexible which is what you want.

The glues can be costly or relatively cheap depending on the what the product is.

If you can wait for curing might use PL preminum polyurethane construction adhesive that comes in a big tube like house caulking. It is cheap at around $6, very thick, remains flexible. Cure time can be up to 7 days depending on temp and humidity.

3M makes 2 part adhesive that cures in 20 minutes but costs around $25.

Do an iternet search on urethane glue and review the brands offered. Then call a well stocked hardware or department store and ask if they carry the brand.

Might also call a home window glass shop and ask what they use. Perhaps for a few dollars they will glue the parts onto the window.

linsjean 09-28-2012 10:19 AM

Thank you Joey for your reply! Will be looking into this today and will report back.

linsjean 09-29-2012 12:55 PM

My housemate is out there trying to remove one of the brackets. It appears that there is a rivet attached to the regulator and it's not coming off very easlly. Tried pliars and a little hack saw. Any other ideas to get that thing off so we clean off the bracket and get that new glue on?

toyomoho 09-29-2012 09:39 PM

If riveted can you drill the rivet out, then find a replacement rivet or something that works at a hardware store.

linsjean 09-30-2012 06:26 PM

He grinded off the rivet and now he has put back on the bracket with new glue (it's really dark, sticky stuff) . He wants to make sure that glue holds good before we put the panel back on. Thanks !

toyomoho 09-30-2012 10:01 PM

Great, thanks for posting back.

linsjean 10-01-2012 12:40 PM

Housemate is now out there to test to see if the glu works, but now the motor won't work. It worked only two days ago! Where is the fuse for the motor on this thing? The power locks work, but think that is a separate motor? I used both passenger side and driver's side buttons, but not even a click when attempting to roll down the passenger side window. Certaintly putting on glue would not have damaged the motor.

linsjean 10-01-2012 03:02 PM

Update, took it to auto glass store again and they said motor is fine, so is regulator. It's the switch, so making calls to see how much that will cost. will try junk yards too.

toyomoho 10-01-2012 10:58 PM

You can buy a regulator with or without motor on the internet, Ebay, etc.

linsjean 10-02-2012 10:23 AM

After all this, it turns out that the driver's side master switch was locked so nothing would operate on the passenger side. Just having a bit of problem with getting the panel back on. But the window goes up and down! :)

toyomoho 10-03-2012 10:07 AM

Good diagnostic work!

Thanks for posting back with the find.

linsjean 10-04-2012 09:25 AM

Thanks! Sometimes it helps to come here and vent a bit while we at home are still working it out on our own. I can't find the "Solved" button here, but this is now solved :)

linsjean 10-09-2012 11:19 AM

I spoke too soon. The window worked perfectly for one day. then yesterday I rolled down the window and then back up and it totally stopped. I think maybe the glass is warped. Windows are not cheap. Frustrated over this. If we can get it in the up position, then I'm going to leave it like that for the winter until I can get this done right professionally. :(

jbclem 10-10-2012 07:19 PM

I've never heard of glass warping, I'd guess if the car was hit hard enough that the track might be bent or loose, the door bent internally, or perhaps a loose electrical connection in the motor circuit.

Either way, I suggest taking off the door panel again and see if you can spot something obvious. If you can get hold of a voltmeter, check for voltage at the motor with the switch on. Since the window worked ok for a while, it makes sense to first check the power circuit to the motor. If you get it working, leave the door panel off(if you can) and drive around for a week to be sure it's still fixed.

John

linsjean 10-11-2012 09:44 AM

thanks John. It turns out that after housemate took of the door panel, he discovered that a bolt was loose and with the tension of the window going up and down for a day, that bolt was not tight enough to bring the glass window up and down. So he put on a different bolt. He re-glued the brackets, and we are waiting a few days to make sure it keeps working.


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